Why Would You Cooperate With Someone Who's Trying to Arrest you?

In a fascinating NYT article on overzealous marijuana policing in New York City, I found this rather revealing passage:
"I came out of the building, and this unmarked car, no light, no indication it was police, was right on me,” said the man, a Latino who asked that his name not be used because he was concerned about his job. "Right on my tail. An officer got out, he said, 'I saw you walking from that building, I know you bought weed, give me the weed.' He made it an option: 'Give me the weed now and I will give you a summons, or we can search your vehicle and can take you in.'"

He opened the console and handed them his marijuana — making it "open to public view."

"I was duped," he said. But the deception was legal, and his pot wasn’t.

The officers escorted him in handcuffs to the unmarked car.
Amazingly, police must actually trick citizens into displaying their marijuana in order to make an arrest, since New York's marijuana decrim law requires plain view discovery. NYPD officers have become quite adept at initiating this through the typical threats and coercion that have long been the hallmark of petty drug war police practices.

It's a terrific, yet disturbing, example of how police can intimidate citizens into incriminating themselves. As always, the best strategy is to ignore incriminating questions and ask if you're free to go. After all, cooperating with police who are trying to arrest you just might get you arrested.

Truthiness?

Are there good arguments against a law that says law enforcement officers cannot knowingly lie? I assume an "undercover" exception would need to be included, but once an officer has identified himself or herself as such, doesn't it make sense that they should be trustworthy?

The statment "or we can search your vehicle and can take you in" is in fact not true w/o evidence that would allow that search, which they didn't have when the statement was made...

TRUSTWORTHY? ARE YOU SERIOUS?

I have been the victim of 'police officers' perjuring themselves in court against me TWICE. THEY CONSISTENTLY LIE TO INFLATE THEIR CASE AGAINST YOU. IF DEA or drug officers raid your home, THEY WILL find something, even if they have to invent it. POLICE AND THE DEA CONSISTENLY COMMIT PURJURY - EVERY SINGLE DAY, without any possibility of being caught. The real TRUTH is, these PIGS are actually REWARDED for inventing charges and lying in court. Forget Iraq and Osama, the real terrorist threat is from 'Police Officers' who wear uniforms, carry guns, and have declared war on the American people.

You don't have to worry about

You don't have to worry about leaving your crib to your job and coming home to find your apartment ransacked and all your worldly goods stolen or flipped upside down.

I'll go the extra mile and bet you never had shots fired at you while hanging out in front of your building. You probably don't even have a building.

Fact

Deception and integrity are in two opposite directions. Police that lie are not to be trusted.

id like to correct what the f

id like to correct what the fact comment says POLICE ARE NOT TO BE TRUSTED

awesome

I think this is fantastic news. If I were a police officer I would do the same thing.

If you don't want to get arrested, you could try not breaking the law.

Just a suggestion.

Really?

So you can't think of anything better for police to focus on? What would you say if I told you we could solve more robberies and violent crimes by refocusing our efforts on those problems?

Re: Really?

I'd agree with you, but I'd go further and say that the drug trade is a driving force behind much of that violent crime and those robberies. It seems unwise to address one without addressing the other.

If breaking the law has the potential to get a person arrested, that person is better off not breaking the law. I don't want a DUI, so I don't drink and drive.

The man in this story did something he knew was illegal. It strikes me as sad and absurd that the police, who were doing the work they've been assigned to do, are being cast in a bad light in this particular story.

Of course-and this is very important- my thinking this doesn't mean that I think police are never in the wrong.

Prohibition didnt work agains

Prohibition didnt work against alcohol and its not working against drugs. So my opinion is legalize it all because i frankly dont care if my neighbor shoots heroin all day and ruins his life, it is neither my buisness nor my problem ( That is unless he gets on welfare but thats a different issue ).

Also lets talk a minute about enforcement. In my area of New York only certain crimes get paid directly to the locality that enforced them. In your opinion doesnt this sway the odds of a locality enforcing the rule that pays them directly over all other rules, in my opinion this is not benfitial to the taxpayer whom already is flipping a substantial bill.

Also lets say i drink and drive or speed or commit a thousand other traffic offences. Back in the day under common law if noone was hurt or thier property was not damaged i have commited no crime. Also under common law if i did do damage to a person or his property i was held accountable to that person not the state.

Why are people paying fines to a state or pissing away my tax dollars in time to inprision people that have done no damage to me, that is the true crux of why people are offended that a cop has to get a small time user to incriminate himself through a lie rather than concentrating on usefull solutions to sociatal woes.

You must be a cop

This thread isn't about whether or not he broke the law...he obviously did and it was stated as such in the post. But the idea that it is "good news" that a officer of the law bullied someone into giving up their rights is sickening. Police are supposed to protect our rights, not strong arm us out of them.

The point here is that the cops didn't know he had done anything wrong...he wasn't seen purchasing drugs, he wasn't seen using drugs and he wasn't seen carrying drugs. They assumed he must have drugs because he was leaving a building and it fit their profile. This is a breach of our rights and is a crime in itself.

Could you be more naive. "tr

Could you be more naive. "try not breaking the law?" how quaint. What about fathers rights and the law! All of these fucked up women who want to get rid of their men because they wanna get laid by other guys is fucked! The number one reason most women claim is domestic violence. It doesn't even have to be proven, only a false accustaion is enough to fuck with some innocent guy. INNOCENT!! The law doesn't give a shit and the cops less. People do not realize how many innocent men their are in jail because of some bogus domestic vilence charge by some trick that used to be a wife. What the hell ever happened to father's rights?! Don't believe the doemstic violence propaganda that 34% of hospital patients are a result of domestic violence. HA! THATS SOME SERIOUS BULLSHIT!! DO THE RESEARCH! THE TRUTH IS THAT ONLY .3% OF HOSPITAL PATIENTS MAKE UP DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. People, don't believe this shit. I know their are men who do commit these acts of violence, and I know their are women as well, but don't stereotype just becuase you want to go home early.

fuck cops scum of the earth.

fuck cops scum of the earth.

I agree. City revenues come f

I agree. City revenues come from how many tickets cops can issue out. What's worse, is that the US has more of its citizens in prison than communist China does. That's some serious BULLSHIT!!
We are quickly becoming a fascist state instead of a democracy. fuck the cops and CPS. Did you know that CPS gets paid to take kids away from their families and then gets a bonus when they find them a foster home?

Wow. That is poetry. You shou

Wow. That is poetry. You should be published and distributed to scholars and academics the world over. Actually I'd bet money that you live somewhere in our great country where interaction with the police is at a bare minimum. Because you probably have an upper-middle class background and have neighbors who work for a living. You don't have to worry about leaving your crib to your job and coming home to find your apartment ransacked and all your worldly goods stolen or flipped upside down. Hell, I'll go the extra mile and bet you never had shots fired at you while hanging out in front of your building. You probably don't even have a "building." Just a big green front yard. Far away from any "criminal activity." You probably do have a lot of pent up anger towards the police though because you listen to a lot of underground East Coast hip hop. And you probably got a ticket one time for doing 56 in a 55. You make me sick. I wish for one night only you had to strap on a Glock and a radio and walk a foot post in Flatbush Brooklyn or the South Bronx. Then tell me about good and evil.

Your self righteous bullshit

Your self righteous bullshit conveniently skirts the fact that prohibition drug laws INVENTED the organized and violent crime that makes inner city work dangerous. It doesn't matter what you strap on: if you're not for more freedom, you're for making the problems in the country worse. I've strapped on a few guns and walked beats. One thing that always struck my mind was how large a percentage of people's suspicions of police officers, and the complete lack of trust for policemen, contributes an enormous gap between community self management and having assholes come in who had long lists of invented crimes to harass people with.

The only thing dangerous today about policing that wasn't 100 years ago, is today, EVERYbody is a criminal; and since that's true, the dangerous ones can't be singled out.

Take your Fascism and put it where you obviously put your understanding of a functional society: someplace where it smells like what you foist off as the glory of policing.

So you've strapped on a few g

So you've strapped on a few guns and walked beats huh? Well now I've seen it all, a freelance law enforcement agent with 100 years experience who doubles as a civil libertarian. WTF! I mean anytime someone starts a sentence with "If you're not for more freedom..." he's usually George W. Bush. You erroneously equate freedom with less law enforcement. My understanding of a functional society is fine. It's you who seems to be saying that anarchy is the best way since it's total freedom. Well fine. Let the police all go on vacation at the same time. No enforcement. Great. Then we'll all be free. Free to live our lives without the fascist police looming over us. And we can all use our knowledge of the bill of rights to keep all the bad people away and live happily ever after.

freedom * Security is a Unive

freedom * Security is a Universal constant if you give up freedoms you can increase your safety and vice-versa. what law enforcement fails to understand is that fear and collusion do nothing for the overall welfare of our commuintys

Amen...Reading the posts on t

Amen...Reading the posts on this site make me laugh. Another comforting thing is I know my job will always be there because of people like them in our country. One post on here referred to we have more people imprisoned than communist China, try getting caught with drugs in that country. People complain about police tactics but if everyone we dealt with was truthful, deception would not be needed. If people complain/hate the way our judicial system works there are certainly other countries out there that have vacancy. Bottom line, don't break the law and you have nothing to worry about.

yeah fuck those cops

yeah fuck those cops

Fuck us?

wow, if it wernt for us cops you all would be getting raped and killed and would all be stealing from everone just to survive. so shut the fuck up and get a life.
you cock sucking mother fuckers

Re; fuck us?

Yeah, fuck you, parasites! This drivel and babble about how if there were no cops we would all be getting raped and murdered, is bullshit. Because cops haven't gone anywhere, and there is still more crime than ever, so how are you helping? The reason I don't trust cops is the same reason I don't trust priests. Even if that one priest has not been accused of hurting a child, would you allow the priest to take care of YOUR kid??? Well, guess what, pig? The same logic applies. It has been documented that many police officers have broken the law, more than once. In my book, that makes ALL of you suspect. The way you treat every citizen as a potential criminal, why shouldn't the same logic be applied to you? So, yeah, fuck you.

you probably have a warrant o

you probably have a warrant out for your arrest

YOU COP DICK SUCKER

YOU COP DICK SUCKER

YOU'RE STUPID

TO THINK THAT A SOCIETY WITHOUT COPS WOULD BE THE SAME WITH A SOCIETY WITH COPS IS STUPID AND NAIVE OF YOU!!!YOU SIT THERE AND BASH COPS WHEN MANY MANY COPS HAVE DIED SAVING PEOPLE. i KNOW ALOT OF PEOPLE WHO WITHOUT COPS WOULD BE DEAD!!!WHAT COPS PUT THEMSELVES THROUGH JUST TO PROTECT OUR COMMUNITIES IS SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE THANKING THEM FOR.THE RISE IN CRIME RATE IS DUE TO THE RISE IN POPULATION AND POVERTY, NOT COPS!!!! WITHOUT LAW ENOFRCEMENT PERSONEL THERE WOULD BE MURDERERS FREETO COMMITT AGAIN AND CHOAS IN EVERY COMMUNITY!!! SO FUCK YOU FOR BASICALLY SHITTING ON THE GRAVES OF EVERYDAY HEROES!!! THAT IS SO LOW OF YOU!!!

RE: fuck us?

actually to the comment before you,
cause i agree with the reply.
and seriously, wtf, 'if it wasn't for police you would all be getting raped and murder', um hello! have you not seen any murders on the news? or rape attacks? just because their are cops around does not mean people are going to stop.
i mean shit, you must be pretty goddamn fucking stupid to think that.

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thanks ..

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The truth is Mr. Officer; the

The truth is Mr. Officer; the police can’t protect anyone or keep them from harm. The police can’t be everywhere at once. There will always be evil in the world, without the trust of the community the Police become part of the evil. Drug use is not a smart thing, but the user destroys his life. An act the user will do illegal or not. Putting the user in jail will not change their minds. Criminalizing drug use will never solve the problem, treatment and education is the answer. The drug war is a waste of time and resources needed to solve the real crimes you have mentioned, rape, murder and larceny. Crimes involving the use of drugs should be limited. Such as driving under the influence or contributing to minors.

>:3)

holy shit! its a lion get in the fucking car

To Protect and Serve?

Whatever happened to protect and serve?

..And no i don't mean protecting their own asses and serving search warrants. I mean serving the citizens, upholding the community and protecting our rights.

Cops aren't there to "protect

Cops aren't there to "protect and serve." Their job is to enforce the law. Your job is to protect yourself.

Stop making ignorant comments

Stop making ignorant comments. They are here to protect and serve. Your job is not to protect yourself but to call for police assistance when u are in danger. I know someone that was shot in is home...he then shot back at the perpitrator and killed him. Guess what the man that protect himself was charged with murder and got 10 years in prison. He was a normal citizen who had never been arrested. But the perpitrator had just came back from fighting for our country so he was consider, more valuable. Only police officers, the president and anyone interested in brown nosing them will be pardoned and receive a license to kill.

RE: Stop making ignorant comments

Let me get this straight. You said this man was shot in his home. You said he shot back. You also stated that "your job is not to protect yourself but to call for police assistance when u are in danger."

Are you fucking insane?

Picture this: BLAM!!! Ow, you shot me. Please wait while I dial 911.

That guy might be doing 10 years but at least he is alive to count the days. Where is his attacker? Exactly where he should be.

Damn the law. If someone shoots at me I will damn sure shoot back. You believe the myth of "Protect and Serve". Noble sentiment indeed but totally false. The police show up to document the mess after the incident. Therein they usually succeed in making things worse.

The problem with this society is the people themselves. The police could arrest anyone for anything they want. The judge can deliver whatever instructions their little black hearts desire. The final authority are the 12 ignorant people sitting on the jury who are deluded enough to believe the police and the judge.

If I am on a jury then that person is innocent. I know for a fact that police & prosecutors will lie. I know for a fact that judges are corrupt. I know for a fact that a prosecutor will suppress evidence that would indicate innocence. I know for a fact that a prosecutor will possess evidence that would prove innocence and will cover-up said evidence only to get the conviction.

Now you expect me to believe that they are somehow better than the person that is on trial? Somehow they are more honest because they wear a suit and tie? I'm supposed to believe that "your honor" sitting there is something special? The entire system is corrupted with very little accountability.

If the people of this society were educated in the basics of constitutional rights it wouldn't be like this because, as I stated earlier, then it wouldn't matter what the "law" did. It would be a waste of their time.

How can you sit on a jury and listen to a judge instruct you that evidence proving innocence is not going to be allowed and you must disregard it? At that exact moment the defendant has my "innocent" vote and it will not change under any circumstance. That judge is welcome to lick my ass with his honorable tongue.

Live and let live

Cops today think that they can pull a violation out of the air and get away with bullying anyone to get an arrest. Our prisons are filled to the brim and have boosted the prison-building industry to the top. We don't need to be incarcerating more and more non-violent offenders, we need to leave them the fuck alone because they didn't hurt anyone. My neighbor can sit in his house and smoke crack all day if he wants. As long as he's not acting belligerent towards me, i'm not calling the cops because he's just a person with problems like me. In my town, police patrol freely while spotlighting inside of houses late at night. I'm sorry, but that is just FUCKED UP! If there's no crime there, police shouldn't be able to create one by fishing around. Make sure real criminals get punished, and let me live freely because i pay the same taxes that everyone else pays and that's where your donut-buying salary comes from.

The War on Drugs is the longest-running war and it's also a miserable failure. Ragan coined the term and appeared to be tough on drugs to get votes and it worked. Now it's over 30 years later and we're still losing. Fuck incarcerating someone's 18-year-old son with dreams and aspirations because he's got busted with heroin on him, ruining any chance of scholarships or financial aid to fuel those dreams and aspirations. Get him some help instead of destroying his life. Judges should appoint counseling as punishment so that he can figure out why he turns to heroin when life seems too hard. Maybe then he can turn his life around and realize that he's got too much potential to be wasting his life on substance abuse. This kind of shit doesn't happen in today's world, though. Power-hungry pigs get off on ruining people's lives too much. You think you're changing the world by busting some potheads? Realize that you're a corrupt fuck and i hope you put a bullet in your head for every life you've ruined.

Legalization makes sense but won't happen. If the constitution was worth the paper it was written on, people in America would be free to enjoy marijuana, cocaine, mdma, mushrooms, heroin, opium, and any other intoxicant of their choosing in the safety of their own homes while not endangering others in the same manner that we're permitted to enjoy alcohol. Do any amount of research and you'll realize that alcohol is indeed more dangerous than most of those other substances. There have been no known deaths in which marijuana was the cause. Alcohol, on the other hand, claims millions of people annually in our country and you can buy that at any gas station in various forms. Our society views drugs as a scourge while alcohol (which IS a drug too) is just good ole' fashioned fun. Prohibition has never worked and still doesn't. Bootleggers outwitted the cops in the same manner that massive marijuana growing operations do today. Drugs aren't going away, and no matter what the government does to stop them they're going to stay here and be plentiful. The War on Drugs created a war against our own citizens, turning citizen officers meant to preserve peace into a militant force fighting mostly law-abiding citizens. This is WRONG!

Decriminalization is what needs to happen. People shouldn't serve time for possession. Drug dealers should go to jail because they create a public nuisance and sometimes endanger the public. People who enjoy alternative intoxicants in private shouldn't be incarcerated because it should be a constitutionally-protected right.

Think about this: if drugs weren't illegal, we would have no reason for gangs to sell drugs and fight over drug-dealing territory. There would be no huge black market for drugs that carried massive profits. There would be fewer overdoses because people would know and understand the purity of the substance they were ingesting rather than buying unknown quality drugs from a gun-carrying dealer. Our children could be better educated to make their own choices rather than being blinded by government propaganda. Terrorist organizations couldn't reap huge profits to help blow up our buildings by selling heroin. Of course, this could all only happen if we instituted the "radical" notion of legalization.

Legalization would be the perfect answer but like i said it isn't going to happen any time soon. Marijuana is the United States' biggest cash crop, beating corn by leaps and bounds and it's just as harmless. If the government were to regulate, tax, and sell marijuana, maybe we could pull ourselves out of this recession. There are over 20 million people who use marijuana, and i'm sure they wouldn't mind buying high quality ganja from the government at reasonable prices. They'd go home and enjoy it in the same way they have been for years, while not harming a soul. Nothing would change except our economy. If you can't eradicate a "problem", you should at least learn and profit from it, shouldn't you? We can't get rid of heroin addiction, so we provide addicts with methadone clinics. We need to take that a step further and provide clean needle-exchange sites where card-carrying members can turn in used needles for clean ones to stop the spread of HIV and other blood-borne illnesses from sharing dirty needles. New Mexico has already done this and has the lowest rates of HIV infections in the country, yet the federal government fails to give them funding to continue and even shuts down needle-exchange sites despite their obvious success. A step further would be to provide safe-injection sites for heroin addicts to go to instead of dangerous "shooting galleries." Addicts should be given their needed dose by a licensed nurse while being supervised in a medical setting. Harm prevention works, so why does our government turn it's attention away from it?

And for all of you who will be replying with "if it were legal, everyone would be drug addicts", consider the Netherlands. They decriminalized marijuana and have a lower percentage of users than the United States does. When you take the rebellious undertones away from drugs, they become less appealing to many.

Think for yourselves. Live and let live. Please.

all the same

I can tell by the language expressed here that many people in this post have a 2nd grade education at best. Free Will and suffer the consequences if that's your road

Alright, here is what i think

Alright, here is what i think. police officers are not your friends. Friends don't get you in trouble or put you behind bars. And for all you self righteous pigs out there think of this, does it feel good to arrest a pot smoker or to give a guy a ticket because he was going a tad over the speed limit? but it's all to meet your fucking quota, right? How about you guys stop thinking about money and starting thinking on how you can actually take care of the crime (robbing, murder, etc) in cities.

tusting police...

never ever trust anything an officer tells you. if he is speaking to you, he is already trying to gather eveidence to use against you. exercise your rights, dont even reply to questions posed. no one can use a hose on you. just keep your mouth shut. you dont even have to identify your self to them . you have a right to remain silent and not to incriminate your self. just keep your shit hidden and just shut your mouth. iknow as a 5 time convicted felon. police dont like people who stick up for themselves. especailly when your in the right. learn and excerise all your rights. you'll be amazed what you can get away with. BY THE WAY FUCK ALL YOU PIGS

P.S. never consent to a searc

P.S. never consent to a search. make them get a warrant. dont let any one ever tell you any different. you dont have to give a reason. just say"i refuse to consent to searches." dont ever let some prick with a badge tell you different. they lie their humans with the same shitty thought patterns as any criminal. they are a state sponsered street gang. some cops can be polite and charming but dont ever forget their cops first... just say no to questions and searches

drug war

If anyone out there really beleives that the judicial system can cure or even treat drug addication, Then I would ask you, if you are being robbed, to call a DOCTOR! Drug addiction has always been and will always be a medical condition or illness. It makes no sense to wast police work on a medical condition any more than asking you health care profesonal to pack a gun and protect from the real bad guys

Misguided.

I believe alot of people are misguided about law enforcement as awhole. However, the truths lying here on this message board is the simple fact they have better things to do than arrest people for pot. Pot isn't cocaine, and pot is not any type of opiate.

As for trafficing, there are bigger fish to fry. As for the police claiming they are the saviors of society? It couldn't be further from the truth. The first stand to a "functional society" is the populace being able to first protect themselves; against all threats foreign or domestic. This includes corrupt politicians and law enforcement, which is a reality in this country.

A civvie commits an unknowing felony, he may be let off of the hook or slammed hard for it.

A cop, who should know law commits an unknowing felony? They take care of their own. So this self righteous we are the protectors of society is bullshit. I trust my gun in the drawer beside me over any cop any day.

In fact realize this, if someone is trying to kill you and police are present. It is a FACT they are not required to defend you. All you cops do your research. You'll find out it is true.

There are some universal truths for everyone squabbling on this board.

police lying

When police wonder why people dislike/distrust them, this story is a perfect example. Seems like sportfishing to cops. Well, normal people don't like the feeling they are prey or being watched. Even if they aren't doing anything wrong. The courts have long held it ok for cops to lie to people in order to elicit incriminating statements, and I understand the reasoning. But there are consequences when we allow those who are supposed to represent what is good to lie just to get someone who is bad.

Police CONSISTENTLY Lie and Commit Perjury

I used to have a very good job with a Fortune 100 company where I had an outstanding attendance record and well above average performance reviews. THEN, I had my home torn apart by DEA agents TWICE. Once because I had spider plants growing in my backyard that the DEA drug 'experts' said they POSITIVELY identified as marijuana from a helicopter! So, they get a search warrant for the outdoor plants, but first knock my door down and tear my house apart. They found about 3 grams of marijuana inside my house. The sergeant told me it would be in my best interest to cooperate and provide names of people to help them bust others. I said I would prefer to speak to my lawyer first which obviously made him very frustrated with me. The result? They charged everyone in my family with possession and manufacturing marijuana - because they couldn't be sure the spider plants with the huge purple and pink flowers weren't marijuana. In court, the judge immediately dropped the manufacturing charges, and when the DEA boys presented bags of marijuana and pictures of bags in a top drawer in my bedroom - They LIED. TOTALLY PERJURED THEMSELVES IN COURT - WITH SMILES ON THEIR FACES! I NEVER kept any marijuana in that drawer. Worse, the manufacturing charge, a felony, is still on my record as 'Nolle Prosecui'. In short, I lost my job and have not been able to find another - going on two years now. I'm ruined. My life savings is gone. My family is splintered. COPS CONSISTENTLY LIE AND CANNOT BE TRUSTED. THE CRIMES THEY COMMIT BY PERJURING THEMSELVES IN COURT ARE FAR, FAR MORE DANGEROUS and DAMAGING TO OUR SOCIETY THAN ANY DRUG WILL EVER BE!!! What checks and balances do we have to prevent these IGNORANT PIGS from lying? NONE!! THESE PIGS CAN SAY ANYTHING THAY CHOOSE, MAKE UP ANYTHING THEY CHOOSE - WITH NO RISK OF BEING CAUGHT OR PROSECUTED. EVER. These SCUM BAGS CONSISTENTLY LIE, but when is the last time you heard of any COP being arrested or even 'disciplined' for lying in court. NEVER. As long as this FASCIST government continues to encourage and reward 'law enforcement' for the number and 'size' of drug arrests, to encourage them to LIE, NO AMERICAN is safe - unless you're connected to the law enforcement machine. STOP THIS ILLEGAL WAR ON AMERICANS NOW!!!! IT IS INSANE AND TOTALLY CORRUPT. COPS AND THE DEA ARE NOTHING MORE THAN ORGANIZED CRIMINALS WITH UNIFORMS, GUNS, HANDCUFFS, AND CAGES.

If I know I am not to blame I

If I know I am not to blame I do cooperate but if I know I am guilty I don't want them around me. This is the human nature and the police seems to know the exact tricks to get results. I cannot approve those tricks, they might degenerate in something else at some point.

I'll never ask a cop on the street for help again!

I was in NYC and got a call my 2yr old son had been rushed to the hospitol unresponsive. while in traffic at the entrance to the holland tunnel I noticed that I was in the wrong lane to turn into the tunnel and upon reaching the tunnel I asked an officer that was directing traffic if I could pull into the lane entering the tunnel to get to the hospitol and my son. The cop stepped out of the way and began to drink from his water bottle never saying anything just acting indifferant and staring at me. so I pulled into the line to enter the tunnel. Then the officer pounded on my car and insisted I give him my license. shocked by his behavior I repeated my request to enter the tunnel and my emergency while I reach for my purse. He yelled "GIVE ME YOUR LICENSE!" I handed him my license and asked him if he had any children and he then accussed me of hitting him on his arm. He said " You just hit me, you just reached out of your window and hit me." I asked him why are you doing this and began to cry. I felt like I was being tortured. I could not believe how crule this man was being. He then told me I was under arrest and to get out of my car. I went to anther officer that was standing by the tunnel entrance and begged him for help. This officer told me I was not under arrest and that he believed me that I did not hit the other officer, but he asked me to give them my sons name and the name of the hospitol to check out my story. After waiting 25 minutes for them to come back and let me go, I called the hospitol on my cell and asked if any one from NYPD called asking about my son and they said they have received no calls inquiring about my son. five minutes later the origonal officer came over to me and gave me two tickets. He didn't metion the call to the hospital he just laughed and wrote me two tickets. I then went straight to the hospital and my son. I never thought that if I asked an officer for help especailly in the case of an emergency, that they would abuse their authority and torture me while in such a fragile state. The worst thing is my two teenaged step daugthers and my 5yr old daughter were in the car and wittnessed the whole thing and they now have a very poor opinoin if the police.

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Great post, mr. Moskovitz. Absolutely right.

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